# June 2023 Meetings Aerial Robotics

**URL:** <https://discourse.openrobotics.org/t/june-2023-meetings-aerial-robotics/31718>\
**Category:** Aerial Robotics\
**Tags:** wg-aerial-robotics\
**Created:** [May 31, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/t/june-2023-meetings-aerial-robotics/31718 "2023-05-31T13:28:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![KimMcG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.openrobotics.org/kimmcg/32/23853_2.png) [@KimMcG](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/u/KimMcG)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/t/june-2023-meetings-aerial-robotics/31718/1 "2023-05-31T13:28:59Z")

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Hi all!

Hope that some of you are having a nice time at ICRA! I couldn’t join anymore due to recent events so I hope to come another time.

Here the announcement for the next meeting:

2023-06-07T14:00:00Z  
Meeting link [meet.google.com/snn-qapb-obz](http://meet.google.com/snn-qapb-obz)  
See [the community calendar](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=c_3fc5c4d6ece9d80d49f136c1dcd54d7f44e1acefdbe87228c92ff268e85e2ea0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=UTC)

There will be a scientific meeting with a presentation from Gerald Peklar (@Gerald_Peklar ) from [NXP](https://www.nxp.com/) talking about the their hardware development and ROS2 integration for the [Drones4Bats](https://drones4bats.de/) project. This will last 20-30 minutes and we will have time to discuss the work afterwards.

Like last time, we will also [pick a topic for discussion](https://github.com/ROS-Aerial/aerial_robotic_landscape) for the meeting on the 21th of June.

> **[ROS Aerial Community](https://github.com/ROS-Aerial)**
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> ROS Aerial Community has 3 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

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**Author:** ![KimMcG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.openrobotics.org/kimmcg/32/23853_2.png) [@KimMcG](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/u/KimMcG)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2023, 6:40am UTC](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/t/june-2023-meetings-aerial-robotics/31718/2 "2023-06-08T06:40:44Z")

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Here is the recording of yesterdays meeting:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/ros/original/3X/d/1/d1494906c31ac0b3959f79212f89eb3d6e59679d.jpeg "ROS Aerial Robotics WG meeting June 2023 - 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_j6PR7RhT4)

**update**  
You can find the slides here:

[NXP\_mobile\_robotics\_intro\_202305\_ROSaerialWG.pdf](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/uploads/short-url/r9Z1eWOwSLxwF7d9hxyvtZ4AhdW.pdf) (3.0 MB)

Thanks @Gerald_Peklar for a great presentation!

Also we had a poll for the new topic:

| Answer | Count |
| --- | --- |
| Non-autonomy packages for UAVs | 0 |
| Aerial robotics simulation | 2 |
| Message standards for UAVs | 1 |
| Swarm communication | 3 |
| Safety management systems | 1 |
| Legality and Airspace access | 0 |
| Hardware, components, devkits | 0 |
| Aerial vehicle types | 0 |
| Planning in 3D | 2 |
| Another topic… namely… (say in chat) | 0 |

So we will be having a discussion about Swarm communication in the next meeting on 2023-06-21T14:00:00Z. I’ll send a reminder for that in this thread somewhere next week.

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**Author:** ![KimMcG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.openrobotics.org/kimmcg/32/23853_2.png) [@KimMcG](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/u/KimMcG)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 12:28pm UTC](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/t/june-2023-meetings-aerial-robotics/31718/3 "2023-06-14T12:28:02Z")

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The next meeting will be next Wednesday:

2023-06-21T14:00:00Z  
Meeting link [http://meet.google.com/snn-qapb-obz](http://meet.google.com/snn-qapb-obz)  
See the community [calendar](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=c_3fc5c4d6ece9d80d49f136c1dcd54d7f44e1acefdbe87228c92ff268e85e2ea0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=UTC)

This will a developer/discussion meeting to talk about swarm managment. Please checkout this thread and respond with your feedback such that we have a good base to start the discussion with:

> **[Swarms in Aerial Robotics](https://discourse.ros.org/t/swarms-in-aerial-robotics/31938)**
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> Hi all! As in preparation for next week discussion, here are some questions to the aerial vehicle community who are working with teams or swarms. For which application? Research, Surveillance, Shows, etcetera? What are the pain points you are...

**Update**  
Agenda:

- Introduction ‘Swarm communication and management’
- Discussion:
  - Why is it important for UAVs (why not another working group?)
  - Definition of swarms
  - Swarms Communication
  - Swarms management
  - Other pain points for swarms?

- Technicalities workgroup
  - Summer schedule?
  - Announcement presentation next meeting

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**Author:** ![Gerald\_Peklar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.openrobotics.org/gerald_peklar/32/17575_2.png) [@Gerald\_Peklar](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/u/Gerald_Peklar)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 6:22am UTC](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/t/june-2023-meetings-aerial-robotics/31718/4 "2023-06-20T06:22:52Z")

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It was a pleasure to present. Unfortunately i’m not allowed (yet) to upload the presentation as a new user.

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**Author:** ![KimMcG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.openrobotics.org/kimmcg/32/23853_2.png) [@KimMcG](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/u/KimMcG)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 9:34am UTC](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/t/june-2023-meetings-aerial-robotics/31718/5 "2023-06-20T09:34:31Z")

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If you’d like, you can send the pdf to me by mail and I’ll upload it for you?

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**Author:** ![KimMcG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.openrobotics.org/kimmcg/32/23853_2.png) [@KimMcG](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/u/KimMcG)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 12:22pm UTC](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/t/june-2023-meetings-aerial-robotics/31718/6 "2023-06-20T12:22:05Z")

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Also a preliminary agenda for tomorrow!

- Introduction ‘Swarm communication and management’
- Discussion:
  - Why is it important for UAVs (why not another working group?)
  - Definition of swarms
  - Swarms Communication
  - Swarms management
  - Other pain points for swarms?

- Technicalities workgroup
  - Summer schedule?
  - Announcement presentation next meeting

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**Author:** ![KimMcG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.openrobotics.org/kimmcg/32/23853_2.png) [@KimMcG](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/u/KimMcG)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 9:29am UTC](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/t/june-2023-meetings-aerial-robotics/31718/7 "2023-06-22T09:29:13Z")

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Hi all!

Here are the recordings slides and transcripts of the 21th of June meeting

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/uploads/ros/original/3X/5/6/56989a4d83c7ed6a469c322fe67301ca3338a96a.jpeg "ROS Aerial Robotics WG meeting June 2023 - 2") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMt5bOKZw-M)

Files:  
[snn-qapb-obz (2023-06-21 16\_06 GMT+2) - Transcript.pdf](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/uploads/short-url/2dM0WLPb41HkxmdgcdKWhBFktuW.pdf) (130.1 KB)  
[snn-qapb-obz (2023-06-21 16\_06 GMT+2) - chat.pdf](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/uploads/short-url/9Io0yppycz2MXUQabR5i8hoAwEw.pdf) (26.5 KB)  
[Aerial Robotics WG Meeting June 2023 - Meeting #2.pdf](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/uploads/short-url/golA5bUNCpXBXAr0bfAkLXrhWug.pdf) (185.9 KB)

I also have here the slides of the presentation of 2 weeks ago. I’ve updated the above post.  
[NXP\_mobile\_robotics\_intro\_202305\_ROSaerialWG.pdf](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/uploads/short-url/r9Z1eWOwSLxwF7d9hxyvtZ4AhdW.pdf) (3.0 MB)

So in 2 weeks (July 7th) there will be a presentation by Alejandro to talk about Vehicle gateway (see this [linkedin](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ahcorde_ros2-vehicleabrgateway-cpp-activity-7074298679645380608-tXoX?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop) post). After that we will go on a month summer break and restart mid August. I’ll give more info in a next thread.

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**Author:** ![botmayank](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex022/user_avatar/discourse.openrobotics.org/botmayank/32/33091_2.png) [@botmayank](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/u/botmayank)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://discourse.openrobotics.org/t/june-2023-meetings-aerial-robotics/31718/8 "2023-10-07T19:25:29Z")

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Just saw the Swarm UAVs discussion @KimMcG @Gerald_Peklar @mrpollo and others, really fun stuff!

I think there is great opportunity to adapt prior research from IoT/Wireless Sensor Networks for solving several problems you mentioned in the discussion regarding communication for both indoor and outdoor use cases. I’d love to see if this is one of our development focuses once we crystallize to that stage post mapping the information landscape and also contribute.

Just off of my prior exposure/research endeavours, CoAP can be used as a lightweight service discovery mechanism. If we can do IPv6 and 6lowpan our addressing stuff is sorted or else Zigbee/similar layer 2+3 tech can be useful. Broadcast/following remote ID design decisions can be a good starting point but I believe we can do better and make fault tolerant mesh based communication links while being energy aware, lightweight, low latency.

@KimMcG I also like the consideration that we need to be thinking about simulating the comms when we talk about swarm simulation. NS3 or similar network simulators’ plugins into ROS should be a great place to start on that front.